In this interview, I talk with Judi about her work around people she calls “Edgewalkers.” She has published a well-researched and very readable book with the same title, and I highly recommend it.

In the first segment, Judi explains the importance of Edgewalkers and describes five ways to identify them. We also discuss the points of application for us as change practitioners.


In segment 2, we learn what to do when we feel we don’t have these traits, or feel they’re not very strong. Judi also talks about the risks and benefits to living the life of an Edgewalker.


Segment 3 finds us discussing four other types of organizational orientations: Flamekeepers, Placeholders, Doomsayers, and Hearthtenders. You may not recognize these names, but you will definitely know people with their characteristics! Judi also addresses how to gather the courage necessary to step forward as an Edgewalker.


In our final segment, Judi talks about how to deepen the Edgewalker perspective in your practice (and why you would want to).

About Judi Neal

Judi is the Director of the Tyson Center for Faith and Spirituality in the Workplace at the Sam M. Walton College of Business, University of Arkansas. She received her Ph.D. from Yale. She was the Founder of The International Center for Spirit at Work, and the International Spirit at Work Awards.  She helped to co-found the Management, Spirituality and Religion Interest Group at the Academy of Management, and was the group’s second Chair.  She is also a co-founder of the Journal of Management, Spirituality, and Religion.  Judi authored  Edgewalkers and is working on The Spirit of Project Management with Alan Harpham, and editing the Handbook of Faith and Spirituality in the Workplace. Judi has published widely in academic journals and has spoken about spirituality in the workplace at conferences internationally. She is Professor Emeritus at the University of New Haven, and Academic Director of the Master of Arts in Organizational Leadership program at the Graduate Institute.

You can find out more about Judi’s work at these websites:



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